Wherein Beth and Matt discuss Achilles and Patroclus and Matt awakens his distaste for anti-shippers.
- Achilles and Patroclus: The erasure of LGBT+ History by Reyna Jani
- Gore Vidal’s spat with Charlton Heston over gay ‘Ben-Hur’ subtext (Los Angeles Times)
The Yin-Yang effect Beth mentions
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Mason compared to the Thunderbirds guy